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A MOMENTOUS OCCASION: I have finally located a women's plus-size long-sleeve 100% cotton dress shirt that more or less fits. It's fully opaque! It doesn't have those awful bust-and-stomach darts! I can wear it with all the buttons closed! It's not the perfect replica of a classic men's dress shirt that I've been longing for--this probably doesn't exist unless I were to actually obtain a men's dress shirt and have a copy made of it that allows for breasts, smaller arms, and somewhat less shoulders--but it will serve my purposes quite well. And it's making me consider a complete style change. I've always been wildly attracted to chunky/stocky butch women in men's dress shirts or approximations thereof, I just never imagined that I could actually pull it off myself, but apparently I really can. Not so much the butch part, but I could work on that!

So now I just need to find myself some ties and appropriate shoes, and maybe some more straightforward pants, and I can attempt to become the woman of my own dreams. Lands' End, you are still on a nonstop downward slide into shittiness and leaning desperately on your vanished glory days of actual quality manufacturing and materials, but today I love you anyway. Especially since you also gave me a plus-size polo shirt that looks like a polo shirt: no looong string of tiny buttons, no ruching at the bust, no elasticized cap sleeves, it doesn't come down to my knees and I will never ever take it off ever. Except to wear my lovely pale blue dress shirt.

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Where did you find this glorious object?

Lands' End! I did kind of bury the lead there. *g* I'm still bitter and resentful of the direction they've chosen to take, but there remain some good items in their catalog yet. It's this one in plus size, and I should note that while it comes closer to fitting me than any dress/office-y shirt ever has before, it's still noticeably big in the arms and just slightly too big over the bust, but I can WEAR it which is new and exciting. And it doesn't have those hideous twin darts down the front, just the sides and on the sides of the bust. It could be heavier material, but my light blue is for all intents and purposes opaque, so that's fine.

(I got it in 24W, and I have a medium-large chest but fairly small by "full-figured" clothing standards, a waist/hip measurement larger than my bust, not especially broad shoulders, and smallish arms. If you're closer to conventional plus-size measurements it might be perfect for you; if the bust has always been your problem then...I honestly have no idea. Might not work for you, as this shirt is far less overlarge there than most things are on me. But worth a shot, possibly.)

Ah. It looks like I would have the same problems I usually do with Lands' End, where anything that fits my shoulders and bust hangs like a tent below that.

(I'm 45 inches around the bust and around the shoulders, 37 around the underbust, with large-ish arms-- on a scale to match, at least-- and no hips OR waist to speak of. I've kind of given up on buying tailored anything :-/.)

Aw, that sucks, sorry. Although it's nice (for me) to know the smaller bust thing is consistent in other shirts. I mean, I'd rather have my problem, because a shirt that's kind of wrinkly and loose on the bust is still better than one that pops open, but...ugh, clothes.

I always get my ties at Goodwill. You can usually find nice silk ones in a bunch of patterns from decent to hilariously hideous for $3/each, which is much better than the $30 each ties sell for new. (!!!)

ooooh. good to know! I may end up actually doing this, at least for a little photoshoot, if I can arrange for some shoes. (Although I decided last night that the way this shirt actually looks its very best on me is hanging open over matched dark underwear, looking like it belongs to my imaginary hot dress-shirt-and-tie-wearing girlfriend. Man, I wish I had one of those.)

I've always been wildly attracted to chunky/stocky butch women in men's dress shirts or approximations thereof, I just never imagined that I could actually pull it off myself, but apparently I really can. Not so much the butch part, but I could work on that!

:9

Come to think of it, I bet you would look awesome in that kind of outfit.