fifty frenchmen can't be wrong (
some_stars) wrote2011-05-24 11:16 pm
precursor to a squee post (not squee)
Doctor Who 6x05: I couldn't quite hear some of the dialogue, watching this on the computer with no separate speakers up here, but it was basically awesome. I don't know if it's my mood or what, but the annoyances seem foremost in my mind, which sucks. I will post them to be rid of them, rewatch when I get home, and make an actually happy post.
1. Everything about the women bothered me. These team leader, bad-ass, saying-no-to-the-Doctor women always seem to come to a bad end, or betray everyone and turn to bad wrong violence, or have their powerfulness be pathologized/mocked, or...something. All of the above. In contrast, Jennifer is--well, just try to imagine the same reactions and lines (barring the bit about Rory's eyes, if we must) being given to one of those guys. So intensely gendered and it grosses me out. IDK if there's going to be some explanation for why her ganger's demeanor changed so suddenly--was she deceiving Rory the whole time, or what, because if it wasn't that, I can't tell what the hell was going on there. Yes, they were 'betrayed,' I get it, but she suddenly turned into an entirely different person. However, there may be a sci-fi-related explanation for this forthcoming.
2. I love everything Rory got to do except that nothing this show is doing with him is what I want them to do with him. Well, almost nothing. First of all I want him to display some kind of joy and excitement and passion or at least interest in time/space travel. I know they're always ending up in peril, and the show seems to be setting up a reason for him to want to leave, but...IDK, I want him to want to be there at all, and not just because of Amy. I would like to see a moment where he's happy about and/or fascinated with something that's not romance-related(though Amy can totally be there, that would be best, even, so they can share it).
Secondly, I want him and the Doctor to have some kind of relationship, to feel something about each other. It was there in the S6 premiere and then gone. I want the three of them to be a team. Yes, I would also love lots of threesome fic, but on the show all I need is some indication that they all, in some way, matter to each other, and also that they all interact when the camera is elsewhere/between episodes.
I mean, it's not that bad, there are often little things(the dart game!), and I love the stories he is getting mostly, I just hate that he gets them because apparently he can't have the other ones. It was better in S5 actually, a lot, because the team lineup varied--sometimes two would be off doing one thing and one doing another, and the two could be any two--and because of course I didn't expect Rory and the Doctor to have a real relationship yet.
I don't know, I just...I want him to be a full complete 100% member of the team. Even if he's going to leave soon, which it feels like might happen and is being set up pretty well I think, but I want it to matter when he leaves--not just to me, captivated by Arthur Darvill's delicious face, and not just to Amy who'll feel torn between her two loves(the other love, of course, being the TARDIS), but to the Doctor and more importantly, to the show.
See, I feel awful now, like I'm ferreting out badness from a pile of joy. I love that he exists! I love that he's the kind one, the cautious practical one. I love that we get a M/F companion pair at all, and a three-person TARDIS. It is all a lovely gift. But it could be so much better. And the reasons it's this way instead of the way(s) I want are all totally gross and obvious (men don't have non-antagonistic relationships with or feelings about other men outside the carefully delineated confines of the comedy bromance, that's icky and boring and who cares anyway).
And I continue to be vaguely dissatisfied with something about Amy but I can't quite figure it out yet. Also am I misremembering (quite possible) or is Moffat's casting rather falling down on the diversity front?
RIGHT, that's done, squee next time.
1. Everything about the women bothered me. These team leader, bad-ass, saying-no-to-the-Doctor women always seem to come to a bad end, or betray everyone and turn to bad wrong violence, or have their powerfulness be pathologized/mocked, or...something. All of the above. In contrast, Jennifer is--well, just try to imagine the same reactions and lines (barring the bit about Rory's eyes, if we must) being given to one of those guys. So intensely gendered and it grosses me out. IDK if there's going to be some explanation for why her ganger's demeanor changed so suddenly--was she deceiving Rory the whole time, or what, because if it wasn't that, I can't tell what the hell was going on there. Yes, they were 'betrayed,' I get it, but she suddenly turned into an entirely different person. However, there may be a sci-fi-related explanation for this forthcoming.
2. I love everything Rory got to do except that nothing this show is doing with him is what I want them to do with him. Well, almost nothing. First of all I want him to display some kind of joy and excitement and passion or at least interest in time/space travel. I know they're always ending up in peril, and the show seems to be setting up a reason for him to want to leave, but...IDK, I want him to want to be there at all, and not just because of Amy. I would like to see a moment where he's happy about and/or fascinated with something that's not romance-related(though Amy can totally be there, that would be best, even, so they can share it).
Secondly, I want him and the Doctor to have some kind of relationship, to feel something about each other. It was there in the S6 premiere and then gone. I want the three of them to be a team. Yes, I would also love lots of threesome fic, but on the show all I need is some indication that they all, in some way, matter to each other, and also that they all interact when the camera is elsewhere/between episodes.
I mean, it's not that bad, there are often little things(the dart game!), and I love the stories he is getting mostly, I just hate that he gets them because apparently he can't have the other ones. It was better in S5 actually, a lot, because the team lineup varied--sometimes two would be off doing one thing and one doing another, and the two could be any two--and because of course I didn't expect Rory and the Doctor to have a real relationship yet.
I don't know, I just...I want him to be a full complete 100% member of the team. Even if he's going to leave soon, which it feels like might happen and is being set up pretty well I think, but I want it to matter when he leaves--not just to me, captivated by Arthur Darvill's delicious face, and not just to Amy who'll feel torn between her two loves(the other love, of course, being the TARDIS), but to the Doctor and more importantly, to the show.
See, I feel awful now, like I'm ferreting out badness from a pile of joy. I love that he exists! I love that he's the kind one, the cautious practical one. I love that we get a M/F companion pair at all, and a three-person TARDIS. It is all a lovely gift. But it could be so much better. And the reasons it's this way instead of the way(s) I want are all totally gross and obvious (men don't have non-antagonistic relationships with or feelings about other men outside the carefully delineated confines of the comedy bromance, that's icky and boring and who cares anyway).
And I continue to be vaguely dissatisfied with something about Amy but I can't quite figure it out yet. Also am I misremembering (quite possible) or is Moffat's casting rather falling down on the diversity front?
RIGHT, that's done, squee next time.
