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fifty frenchmen can't be wrong ([personal profile] some_stars) wrote2011-06-17 12:17 pm

IDEA

So me and [livejournal.com profile] violin_road have developed a theory about X-Men: First Class! It is both a fanfic idea that someone should TOTALLY WRITE and a disturbingly/deliciously viable explanation for the actual movie.

So it began with some semi-badfic, and how the fandom is so full of Making Sweet Love stories--which, don't get me wrong, I'm deeply enjoying, but I recognize that it's sort of weird. And then, thoughts ensued, mostly hers tbh. I helped a little! (Quotes following are from a flocked post, with permission)

[livejournal.com profile] violin_road: I feel like I've read so much ~making love~ in this fandom already that it's just accepted fanon that Chuck is constantly non-conning Erik into a ~deep need for connection~.

[livejournal.com profile] violin_road: Like, wtf Erik, you've been a bad-ass revenge-minded Nazi-killing sonovabitch for years, and suddenly this pretty boy makes eyes at you and asks you to help raise his housefull of orphan children, and you're like "oh yes of course whatever you say teeheehee"??

TRUFAX, a story where Charles was a goddamn fucking liar when he said "I could make you stay, but I won't" would NOT EVEN BE AN AU. It would play out the exact same way.

[personal profile] some_stars: I think I'd like the story where when Charles says that, he really THINKS he means it, but he reaches out and twists a little anyway without even quite realizing. Just enough to make him stay, and then a while later just enough to make him say yes, and then just enough to make him want to allow telepathic sex, and eventually he's doing it constantly, tiny adjustments that he's not fully aware of because they happen along with his own feelings. And then Erik steps inside that chamber in the sub, cut off for the first time...and then he puts the helmet on. "Sorry, Charles. Somehow I don't trust you."

[livejournal.com profile] violin_road: And Charles is genuinely baffled, because why wouldn't Erik trust him? Erik's always trusted him, from the very beginning, and it's not like he's ever done anything to betray that! He would never!

And Erik's not really sure either, because the thing is that what Charles was doing to his mind was so subtle, so incremental, that it's just a sort of ... feeling, that something is wrong, that he's not wholly himself. He's been chalking it up to just the new situation, to working with others, to there being others. But suddenly Charles can't touch him anymore, and ... well, maybe it's just the excitement, the knowledge that he's finally going to kill Shaw, but he somehow feels more ... whole than he's felt in a while.




So yes. That. I mean, I feel it's either this theory or "love at first sight" if you want to really explain the way things unfold, though I admit I can make it work without either...but not QUITE as well. And not nearly so pleasingly. (Actually the thing I'm writing right now is mostly that third, non-love non-mind control option. Well, there's love, but not "we met twelve hours ago and I NEED YOU FOREVER" love. I can never write the things that actually make me happy to read.)

Alas, I don't think I could ever write this fic--I can do grim/awful/tragic, and I can do long (insert bitter laughter here), but both would just make me too sad to live. You! You write it. Write it for meeeeee (and Beckah).

(Actually I think I could sum up the crucial points of this idea with one of my favorite cat macros of all time. Just imagine there's also sex involved.)
kuwdora: Pooka - card 60, brian froud (Charles/Erik)

[personal profile] kuwdora 2011-06-17 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
yesssssssssssssssssssss a MILLION TIMES to everything in this post
kuwdora: Pooka - card 60, brian froud (Charles/Erik)

[personal profile] kuwdora 2011-06-17 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
There should be fic. But yes. I will consider this my fanon now cause it's too beautiful not to believe.

I'm semi-working on this Charles/Erik PWP thing where, it's like. Erik is actually kind of a selfish lover--y'know. Not in a, uh, fulfilling-for-Charles way. 'Cause I keep reading all these other stories and wondering why every time out Erik is the most considerate partner in bed ever when there's no reason to think that being would make him change his sexual proclivities overnight (or in a week, or what-have-you). it's slow going though since my brain RAM is divvied up amongst many things at the moment.
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)

[personal profile] rydra_wong 2011-06-17 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN THIS MOVIE AND I WANT THIS FIC NOW.
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)

[personal profile] rydra_wong 2011-06-17 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Alas, I don't think I could ever write this fic--I can do grim/awful/tragic, and I can do long (insert bitter laughter here), but both would just make me too sad to live.

It could be short! Lots of brief fragments/glimpses at critical points in the story! It could be all elliptical and just enough to appall the reader in just the right ways!

*looks hopeful and appealing*
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[personal profile] vive 2011-06-17 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I am torn between DO WANT and OH MY GOD TERRIFIED.
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[personal profile] derryderrydown 2011-06-17 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
That... That makes PERFECT sense. In an awesomely terrifying kind of way.
vass: A sepia-toned line-drawing of a man in naval uniform dancing a hornpipe, his crotch prominent (Default)

[personal profile] vass 2011-06-17 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG DO WANT.

That plot has so many elements that I care about. Bad boundaries, and learning to find better boundaries even if it means cutting the encroaching person off! Domesticity as being both warm/fuzzy and claustrophobic/scary! Love not being enough! My issues, let me show you them.
neotoma: "Squee!" goes the bunny (SqueeBunny)

[personal profile] neotoma 2011-06-17 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooo, this is a neat interpretation.

And I could see it as Charles not even aware, until he really looks back on his relationship with Erik, that he was 'tweaking' him, because Charles had to teach himself how to be a telepath and figure out what his limits are and what his limits *should* be.
lilacsigil: "Magneto Was Right" (magneto was right)

[personal profile] lilacsigil 2011-06-18 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
I would read this SO HARD. Charles is shitty with boundaries and consent.
helens78: Two men sit facing each other, hands crossed, elbows on their knees. (x: charles/erik)

[personal profile] helens78 2011-06-20 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to write this so hard my teeth hurt. *flaps a little* Actually, I was just talking about something very much like this, too, over in my journal. CHARLES: YOU ARE DEEPLY QUESTIONABLE. I mean, he could be affecting everything and everyone around him and no one, no one would ever know. Ever. How is that not made to be dug into?

(Okay, that last thing might not be a sentence. I have that LOVE LOVE song trampling through my brain and it is very powerful.)
helens78: Two men sit facing each other, hands crossed, elbows on their knees. (x: charles/erik)

[personal profile] helens78 2011-06-20 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
:DDDDDDD Thank you! Oh, man, the number of questionable!Charles bunnies in my head... it's like I'm being ordered to write them by a hinky telepath or something. *eyes Charles muse with suspicion*